Sunday, March 8, 2009

A Premature, Unscientific Opinion

The big winners of this year's Job Market Contest: Rutgers

--Mr. Zero

20 comments:

zombie said...

Good piece in the NY Times about how bad the academic job market is this year, across the board, in the humanities:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/07/arts/07grad.html

Anonymous said...

Wrong. NYU.

Anonymous said...

Michigan and NYU aren't doing so bad either.

(There's more info coming to Leiter that ain't there yet ...)

Anonymous said...

Right, but no-one is posting NYUs placements yet. (I seem to remember that last year they posted them late as a block entry). I'm guessing they're going to zoom ahead.

Anonymous said...

Rutgers does take plenty of heat, but I'll take my hat off to them this year. We had a candidate from Rutgers give a job talk this year, and he was very impressive.

Anonymous said...

good to know that the philosophy smoker is now influential enough for coronation!

http://philosophyjobmarket.blogspot.com/2008/06/coronation.html

Anonymous said...

RU Rah Rah RU Rah Rah Whoo-Rah Whoo-Rah

Rutgers Rah!

Up Stream Red Team Red Team Up Stream

Rah Rah

Rutgers Rah!

Soon-to-be Jaded Dissertator said...

Anon. 6:15,

Heh.

No coronation, I suppose, was meant by Mr. Zero. Besides, the moderate amount of traffic we get isn't enough for us to get into the (self-appointed) philosophical awesomeness arbitration business and have it mean something, even if that were something that interested us.

Anonymous said...

I think the instinct of calling the judgment "premature" was a good one.

truthy guess. should have stayed in the gut.

Mr. Zero said...

Look. I was merely exercising my prerogative as kingmaker, vested in me by virtue of my being a little-read pseudonymous contributor to some philosophy blog.

Or maybe I was just tipping my hat to the Rutgers people for having a pretty good year on the job market in a fucking terrible year to be on the job market.

Geez. And people say I need to relax.

Soon-to-be Jaded Dissertator said...

Mr. Zero,

And they deserve the hat tip; any department placing multiples is doing pretty well by their students. And you're right that everyone else who got a job in this shitty market deserves one also. And you're right that people need to relax.

Anonymous said...

Definitely premature, but surely it's not unexpected that the most respected programs would place well, is it?

Nonetheless, no coronation is appropriate unless we know the number of candidates they had on the market as well. Sure it might look great to land 4 jobs, but much less so if you only place half of the cohort. (This is hypothetical--I have no idea the size of any cohort except for my own and Harvard's, as they have them listed.)

Anonymous said...

Right, so Michigan has placed some people into good positions, but they had nearly 15 on the market this year. In contrast, NYU will have placed most of their candidates into good/excellent positions. No idea about how Rutgers is doing once we take into account how many people in total they have on the market.

Anonymous said...

berkeley has had only a few people on the market, and placed one at Notre Dame and another one at Northwestern.

Soon-to-be Jaded Dissertator said...

I've been informed, by someone in the know, that the above information provided by Anon. 12:37 is incorrect, or at least misleading (and I completely recognize that this was done unintentionally; I'm not calling anyone out).

It seems offers have been put out in these cases, but not accepted as of this time.

Anonymous said...

yes, this is right. I should have said, "have been offered positions at...", which I think is good enough for the purposes of this threat.

Anonymous said...

Rutgers?! Have any of you ever been to New Joisey?

Anonymous said...

Annnnnnnnnd... NYU wins.

http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2009/03/tenuretrack-hiring-by-philosophy-departments-20082009.html?cid=6a00d8341c2e6353ef01156e4933ae970c#comment-6a00d8341c2e6353ef01156e4933ae970c

Mr. Zero said...

Rutgers noses its way back into the lead.

g said...

Note that some posts are re-posts, for several of the schools (NYU, Chicago, UNC and Rutgers are a few that I've noticed who have double-posted at least one person so far)