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Thanks for the memories. That is very funny. I've been there. Good luck with your future calls. I hope you get at least one interview. Why? That's all it takes sometimes....
call: a 1-800 number. Even though I know that it cannot be from a school, what if? I answer with my professional voice:- "Hello?". - "I am calling from American Express to..." click. Go to hell. Don't play me like that, indeed.
Oh yes. That's all too familiar...
I called my mom three times at work today to make sure she was the "unregistered" number that called me during the 45 minutes I was out running and not glued to my phone. Tomorrow, I run with my phone. And mom, don't play me like that.
...kids with brain cancer. Come on. They're important too!
What's up with the latest Chronicle ad? The name of the hiring institution is listed as "confidential." There's also this peculiarity: "Knowledge of Norwegian a plus, but not a requirement."Cue the Ligeti music from "Eyes Wide Shut."
FemFilosofer, do you really not have your mom's number programmed into your phone? Damn, that's cold
My stupid cell phone carrier, asking if I wanted to renew my contract.
Got an etiquette question.Got an email from a SC this morning. Not a request for EOE/AA info, not a PFO, but an actual update, informing me of their "process" and expected timeline (they're doing phone interviews early 2011). I genuinely appreciate that info. I can stop worrying about that particular job (which is one I particularly covet) for now.It's a mass email. Seems to me that it's not expected or necessary, and maybe would be a nuisance, for me to respond with a "thanks for keeping me informed" reply. Agreed?
Anybody checking their spam boxes :)
Agreed (3:03 PM): sometimes it just takes one. When I was on the market (second year), was told had a great dossier and should be getting lots of interviews, but by late December, was waiting in agony. Did get one call from a PGR ranked school (top thirty) a week before APA. My only interview despite not getting calls from many lower ranked/unranked schools searching in the same core area. It may have helped that there was some intervention by faculty at my home department talking me up but I'll never know for sure. Somehow, managed to get the job (BTW: wasn't the first choice). It goes to show that the process is frustratingly unpredictable but more importantly, it is possible to get a job even if you only have one call. Hope you all get that opportunity.
Thanks anon 9:32. That cheers me up a bit, it sounds very similar to my situation. Here's hoping for a last-minute miracle.
Zombie - Yeah, I think a "thanks for the update" would be unnecessary. I got a similar email for a post a couple of weeks back - the department was making two searches, one specific and one open, and had decided to postpone looking at the open position until the New Year. So it was good to know that it hadn't been forgotten. But these things are presumably sent out by their administrative staff, who won't pass on your thanks to the search committee, and who will probably view every email about it that they receive as one more annoyance to deal with. (Plus, in the case of the one I got, they somehow managed to use the CC field instead of BCC, thus revealing all 345 applicants' email addresses...)
I hate to ask the nuclear question, but what is Plan B? The market is so bad right now that a significant number of people reading this probably aren't going to get jobs; even if the number of jobs rose last year, there's still a substantial backlog of applicants to clear; there just aren't enough positions, be it in research institutions, liberal arts colleges, community colleges, whatever, to accommodate everyone.So what does a philosophy PhD qualify you to do *apart* from philosophy? I feel like I have almost no transferrable skills - and the sort of thing I might be qualified to do (e.g. think tank work tends to be dominated by much younger, more connected people who've gone straight in to it after their first degree or master's. What's left for us?
Zombie:I got that email too. (I swear I do not have any ninja stars hidden behind my back right now.) I, too, appreciated it a lot. Now I know I can mark that off my list of "still might call for the APA" but not mark it off my list entirely. It would be nice if more search committees kept applicants informed of their timelines like this.I think they would not expect a response, however, because they probably sent out hundreds of them. I agree with Anon 10:45 that it would probably just be a hassle for them to get replies.
Bunny H, it's on.It is so on.Now to find the other 399. There can be only one.
Anon 10:53: there was a Plan B discussion on this blog a few weeks back, as I recall. Thus far, my efforts to seek lucrative jobs working for the gub-ment have failed comprehensively. My other plan B, for which I am overqualified, is in a field where employment is even less likely than in philosophy. I'm going to start training as a Starbucks barista.
Anybody checking their spam boxes :)That's where I found my interview. So, now I have another object of neurotic attention.
Anon 10:53: there was a Plan B discussion on this blog a few weeks back, as I recall. Thanks, Zombie. I'll dig around and see if I can find what you all had to say... I'm new here, so missed that! I'd thought about government work, but all those jobs seem to have been taken by bright young things who were all involved in student politics, not jaded old soaks who overthink it all.Anybody checking their spam boxes :)That's where I found my interview. So, now I have another object of neurotic attention.Oh... spam box? Better check......just an offer from a Mr John Nana of the Standard Chartered Bank of Ghana offering me chance to take part in a confidential transaction. I might as well try, I guess - at this point, the chances of getting a philosophy job seem roughly equal to the chances of getting money out of Mr. Nana.(Oh, and a bewildering email offering me chance to have "big penis like a girl!"??!?)
How 'bout getting a call from area code XYZ. It's the area code of a department which 1) is your top choice and 2) recently requested additional materials. You see the area code and your heart pounds. You answer, and...wrong number.
Zombie and BunnyHugger: I got that email too, and (sorry about this) I CALL DIBS. I'm surprised neither of you beat me to it.As for that weird confidential job, it's Gateway College in Oslo. Apparently they arrange study abroad experiences for Norwegian students; I can't tell whether they offer degrees or just operate study abroad programs for students at universities. They're a hoyskolen, which is like a local state college sort of. They offer programs in Bali, Brazil, Cape Town, Mexico, New York, Paris, and Sydney (the lack of parallelism is theirs). Since I don't read Norwegian, that's about all I can make out from their site.http://www.gatewaycollege.no/
Sorry, Anon 12:11, but I just got a call from Mr Nana in Ghana. He's going to wire the money to me. Good luck finding a suitable West African co-conspirator. Now, if you will, PFO.
Not to get too pessimistic, but here are some resources (ideas and support) for plan B:http://versatilephd.com/http://www.leavingacademia.com/
I should probably post this elsewhere but this seems to be the most active thread. I had a mock interview today that was like my dissertation defense but vastly more aggressive. I was shocked and responded VERY badly. Is this what interviews are really like? As soon as it started my thought was: I wouldn't want to work with jerks like this anyway. Are liberal arts interviews like this? If they are, I'm canceling mine. I'm terrified now...
Xenophon, I'll fight you for it.And as has been noted in previous threads, we ethicists are all mean and immoral. So watch your back.And your front.
@ Fulci, My mom's number always comes up as unregistered, even though she's in my phone. She's paranoid. I'm not that cold ... but if she keeps calling me from her unregistered number and not leaving me messages I'm gonna get that way.
FWIW, my interviews have all been initiated via email thus far. So check your spam box, or turn off your spam filter.
Zombie,Alright. Meet me in back of the administration building tomorrow at noon. But everyone note, I DID call dibs.It's a sweet job. If I don't get an interview (and let's face it, I probably won't) then good luck to you, Zombie.Word Verification: tries. I thought they had dictionaries that kept them from using real words in these things, but I guess they's tries as best as they's can.
In my case it was my other in law, calling from California, but the number showed up as 'blocked'. Gah.Does anyone know what's happening with the Iowa State job? (no. 89 in JFP 188) Did it get cancelled? It's not appearing on the wiki, unlike all the rest of my outstanding schools.
Anon 8:16:If you log on to the Iowa State Website, it will tell you the status of your application.
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