Wednesday, January 26, 2011

Are Campus Visits Happening Earlier This Year?

My sense is that because so many departments decided not to interview at the APA this year and went with Skype or phone interviews instead, or else proceeded directly to on-campus interviews, the campus visits are taking place earlier than usual this year. Several people I know have already been to campus multiple times. And several departments I know people at seem to be doing their campus visits at least a couple weeks earlier than what seems to me to be usual. I guess it's not crazy to have them in mid- to late January, but I thought they mostly took place during February.

--Mr. Zero

9 comments:

zombie said...

I have a fly-out this week, at a place that did not have APA interviews. OTOH, last year I had a fly-out in February at a school that didn't go to APA either. I'm not sure the APA/no-APA thing makes much difference in the timing of fly-outs.

I still have phone interviews happening too.

It strikes me that there's no particular pattern, and that the process has gotten somewhat more chaotic with the nascent acceptance of phone/skype interviews. I don't think this is a particularly good thing for schools or candidates, but maybe it's a transitional problem that will work itself out in a few years.

As loathe as APA is to give up their iron grip on the job market and their control over interviews, this would be a good time to step in with some practical guidance on standardizing interview timelines.

Anonymous said...

As loathe as APA is to give up their iron grip on the job market and their control over interviews, this would be a good time to step in with some practical guidance on standardizing interview timelines.

But the APA doesn't really have "an iron grip" on this. Rather, it recommends a procedure and, by and large, most departments abide by it. Aside from that, when was the last time the APA offered practical guidance on a pressing issue?

Anonymous said...

I have a friend who just got back from a fly-out. It was at a school that skipped the APA. My grad university has, with past hires, done fly-outs from early February through mid-March. So, that seems earlier than usual.

Anonymous said...

I was on the job market in 2002-2003 and all five of my fly-outs were in January.

(So I think January fly-outs have been common for a while.)

Anonymous said...

All my friends' and my fly outs are in February, as are the job talks in the department where I am currently VAPing; but my graduate department just finished the round of job talks this week. So timelines seem mixed to me. (At one dept I know of, one that, unlike those I listed above, skipped not just the APA but first-round interviews altogether, they'd already made an offer in early January!)

Anonymous said...

I'm a grad student in a department that did APA interviews for positions both this year and the last few years. We've already finished all of our on campus interviews for this year's position and, as far as I can remember, this is roughly the time line we followed the last few years as well. Things might be changing for schools that are opting out of the APA (for whatever reason) but it looks like at least some schools are sticking to the status quo.

Anonymous said...

3 interviews at apa. No call backs so far. My first year on the market. So far, a crushing experience.

This makes philosophy suck.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 9:36,

It took me 4 years to get 3 eastern interviews. Keep your chin up. Don't let the bastards get you down.

Anonymous said...

I had a fly-out scheduled during the APA for mid January and an offer last week (that is, January 27). I got the feeling this department jumped the gun in order to put pressure on me to take the offer. I don't mind this-- I think the others should follow suit.

Some universities are just now scheduling campus visits. I think many of the top candidates will be gone by then. I don't love having pressure to make a decision within some timeframe- but I do like the enthusiasm this department has shown me and their proactivity. I think it's a smart response in a tight market.