Thursday, January 13, 2011

Quick Question About That Alleged Photo of Hitler and Wittgenstein



There's been a bunch of discussion over at Leiter about whether it is possible, given their respective timelines, for Hitler and Wittgenstein to have appeared in this gradeschool photo together that boils down to "maybe, maybe not." But the thing that stands out to me is that Hitler's adult features are strikingly present in a way that is super-duper creepy, while the "Wittgenstein" looks not even a little bit like Wittgenstein. Nothing. I don't see the resemblance at all. Does anyone see even the slightest resemblance between that kid and the adult Wittgenstein?

I mean, I see why you'd think that the Hitler kid was Hitler. But what was the basis for thinking that the "Wittgenstein" kid was Wittgenstein in the first place? It can't be the compelling resemblance, right?

I think it's just made-up bullshit.

--Mr. Zero

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

This has almost no evidential merit, but my grandfather had a striking resemblance to the adult Wittgenstein, and this does look like his childhood pictures.

Anonymous said...

I see a family resemblance.

Anonymous said...

My grandfather was Wittgenstein and that's not him.

Anonymous said...

Does the alleged little Ludwig in that photo resemble the little Ludwig in this one from the late 1890's (according to the "other" wiki)?

Anonymous said...

I don't know about Wittgenstein, but what gets me about this picture is how much that shadow under Hitler's nose looks like a moustache. Talk about foreshadowing (apologies for the pun).

Matthew Slater said...

The kid on the left looks more like the "Early Wittgenstein" than the "Later Wittgenstein". . . .

Anonymous said...

Awesome response Anon 3:36. Awesome response.

Anonymous said...

What we need to ask ourselves is what it would take for the claim "This is is picture of young Wittgenstein." to be false.

Anonymous said...

i believe part of the basis was that since they're known to have been at the same school at the same time, it's possible that it is wittgenstein.

also, there are childhood photos of wittgenstein; i assume someone eyeballed them.

Anonymous said...

yawn.

http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/why-your-last-job-search-was-a-freakin-disaster/30972?sid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en

word verification: watin

Anonymous said...

Imagine a picture of Wittgenstein and Hitler. We are tempted to say that this is unlikely. But what if the likeness of Wittgenstein began to flicker in the distance? Would it still be a picture of HIM? And what if he had toothache?

Feggy said...

After careful examination, me and my wife came to the conclusion that the ears of the adult Wittgenstein and the kid in this picture are distinctly similar. As the face can change but ears not, the kid can be Wittgenstein.

Anonymous said...

What is curious is not the picture, but that we should think we look at the picture rather than the picture looking at us. (I once heard a similar remark from Labor.) Nearly all my ideas are inverted pictures.

zombie said...

Other than the unsubstantiated claim that Wittgenstein made Hitler antisemitic, why care? Hitler's psychopathy is overdetermined.

Anonymous said...

They both have sticky-outy ears.

Anonymous said...

If this picture of Hitler and Wittgenstein could talk, we would not be able to understand it.

Anonymous said...

Rabbit. Clearly.

Anonymous said...

This picture seems to hold me captive...

Anonymous said...

And the chubby kid in the background is Göbbels.

Word verification: uruse

Anonymous said...

So I guess we have all given up on our job searches...

Anonymous said...

Yeah, what became of your job search, Mr. Zero?

zombie said...

OK, I'll bite.

Activity is slow on the wiki re: campus interviews. Is this because activity IS slow, and campus interviews are still being contemplated/decided by SCs? Or is it because interviewees are not posting to the wiki (where they might be easily found out by their IP addresses)?

What's the typical timeframe for post-APA campus interviews?

Philosophically speaking, is no news good news?

Anonymous said...

Just go ahead and change the name of this blog to "The Leiter Echo" - for real.

Anonymous said...

Ha. The basis is that we know that Hitler and Wittgenstein went to the same school and may have been there at the same time. So, wouldn't it be neat if they appeared together in a photograph????

I think that's pretty much it.

Anonymous said...

Activity is slow on the wiki re: campus interviews. Is this because activity IS slow, and campus interviews are still being contemplated/decided by SCs? Or is it because interviewees are not posting to the wiki (where they might be easily found out by their IP addresses)?

It's true that some people are not updating the wiki. That's the case for one of my APA interviews, in which the SC sent out a PFO to (some of/all of?) those who weren't selected for fly-outs.

In the case of a second APA interview, either people aren't updating the wiki or the SC's moving behind schedule (which it said might happen).

Looking ahead, it's one month until the February JFP. Any predictions?

Xenophon said...

I got a PFO, which read, in part: "We have now completed the first stage of our search, identifying a short list of candidates and conducted interviews at the APA. I regret that we were not able to include you in that group."

Now, I know I didn't interview at the APA. I didn't even go. In my cover letter I said I wouldn't be going. It's fine for a PFO to say "no one who didn't interview at the APA is now out of the running" but they don't say that. What they say is that they didn't interview me at the APA.

Is it possible they think that I think that I did interview with them, and they need to tell me that no, I actually didn't?

If I take this letter literally, I might still be in the running for the job. They never say that I'm not. Maybe in August I'll just show up for the job, argue that they did in fact hire me, and they just didn't realize it. Maybe I'll add that I did an on-campus interview that went very well, and they forgot about it. Just see what happens.

Anonymous said...

Xenophon,

I think your strategy is promising. After all, as long as you don't send them a letter informing them that they didn't interview you on campus, I don't see how they would know that they never interviewed you.

zombie said...

Today's aggressively passive PFO:

"Your application was forwarded for consideration along with the applications of the other candidates who met the minimum qualifications for the position.

Unfortunately, your name does not appear on the list of those selected for an interview."

I wish my name would stop wearing camo and just "appear" already. Clearly, my name is holding me back.

zombie said...

Xeno, are you SURE you didn't interview at APA? In all possible worlds? It's possible you've already been hired.

Anonymous said...

Question from a newbie:

Is it common not to hear from most of the places one applies to?

Of all the jobs I applied for, I got only a handful of PFOs. From some places, I never got an acknowledgment even.

Is that common?

Xenophon said...

Well, the school says I didn't. Why would they lie?

zombie said...

Anonymous newbie -- you will not get PFOs or acknowledgments from every place you apply to. Some you will just never hear from at all. Some will send you the EOE form to fill out. Others will send you a letter months from now, after they've made their hire.

I think I got more acknowledgments than usual this year, but I also applied to more places than usual this year.

Anonymous said...

Activity is slow on the wiki re: campus interviews.
That's been my impression too, and most of my friends' as well. However, over the past few days I heard from the two schools I interviewed with - one said they're having a delay in the process - whatever that may mean - and the other is flying me out. I'm very excited, but facing a dilemma re the wiki - I thought I'd post it as a service to the community, but on the other hand, I'm dying to know who I'm up against, so would like to wait and see others post it there. It's been 24hrs and no one did. If everyone is acting like me.... well, we're getting nowhere.

Xenophon said...

Yeah, the game theoretical aspects of the wiki aren't very complicated, unfortunately.

You know, I've never even wondered who my competition is. I wonder whether it's alright to just ask if you're curious. The worst they can say is, we can't tell you. I guess you could look desperate, but it probably depends on how you ask.

Has anyone tried that? Or seen someone go down in flames by asking about the competition?

A-158 said...

The worst they can say is, we can't tell you.

I suspect this is the best you can hope for, not the worst. An uncomfortable silence would be second best. The worst case would be leaving a bad impression about your judgment or self-confidence.

Is it common not to hear from most of the places one applies to?

Sadly, yes. I heard from 1/4 to 1/2 most years. On a couple of occasions, schools I had APA interviews with never contacted me again. (I wonder what I did!)

Anonymous said...

I's stay away from asking about the competition. Sometimes, however, you can find out who your competition is just by looking at the department website and seeing who is giving talks. I was just looking at the website at a University where I used to work and noticed that they have four talks this month, all in the same area (which happens to be the area they've advertised for a job in) and all by people who are graduate students at various other institutions. Of course if you're one of the finalists at that job, you know who your competition is. But I guess most hiring departments don't post their job talks as colloquia.