Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Vol. 193 Web "Only" Ads

The vol. 193 web "only" ads are being updated from the bottom. I don't like it. Put the newest ads at the top.

I do kind of like how you can click an ad and see it all by its lonesome. Although I'm not 100% sure what practical utility this function might have. But I thought I'd try to mention a positive instead of complaining all the time.

--Mr. Zero

33 comments:

Carolyn Dicey Jennings said...

The mobile version of the site doesn't scroll (it doesn't have a scroll bar and everything below the frame is inaccessible), so seeing one at a time is key in that mode. Newest first would be better, at least as a viewing option.

Anonymous said...

Frankly I thought it would have been more useful if the link just took you down the page to the ad's location on the full list. But this is far from being one of the top issues/problems with the JFP. So I'm letting it slide.

Anonymous said...

That's probably to make it easier to identify a specific ad.--you can use a URL instead of quoting or describing.

Anonymous said...

9:54: Yeah, but being able to identify a specific ad with a URL is kind of pointless if you have to log in before the URL will work.

Anonymous said...

I think I'm done with philosophy. Just can't take this anymore. Plus I don't even think I'm good at it anymore. Later.

Anonymous said...

I wish they would implement an RSS feed. Would they even know what I was talking about if I asked them?

Also, how come the phylo jobs wiki doesn't have an RSS feed? The job listings has an RSS.

Also, I want a job dammit! Is it typical to get an interview and to wait over a month to hear anything back?

Filosofer said...

Anon 8:58--

Based on my experience on two search committees (an admittedly small sample), I don't think it's unusual to wait a month to hear from the department that interviewed you. They may have had more candidates to bring to campus after your visit, and, depending on schedules, those may have taken several weeks. They also may need to run background checks and/or consult references before making a decision. They may have had a hard time getting their faculty together to discuss the on-campus visits. They may, frankly, have decided that you are hireable but only their third choice, and they're waiting to hear back from the top two candidates before extending you an offer or informing you that you're out of the running.

For what it's worth, good luck!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the helpful feedback!

My situation is less optimistic, as I'm waiting after a first round interview, to hear about a campus visit. But I will definitely keep all those factors in mind.

Anonymous said...

8:58/11:28: Check the wiki (http://phylo.info/jobs/wiki). If the wiki indicates that they've scheduled on-campus interviews, then you can reasonably conclude that you weren't in the first group of on-campus interviewees. If the wiki does not indicate that they've scheduled on-campus interviews, then maybe there is still hope. In my own experience, after a first-round interview, the interviewers will usually not contact me at all unless they want to invite me for an on-campus visit. So, if you weren't selected for an on-campus interview, you might just never hear anything from them again.

Christopher Hitchcock said...

Speaking of the JFP on the APA site, they seem to have hidden it again. Instead of following the intuitive procedure of clicking on 'resources' and then 'member resources' (or was it the other way around?), now you have to click on 'members only' and then 'publications'. Even if you are logged on as a member, it is not listed under the 'publications' link from the main page.

Anonymous said...

This APA website is just absurd. I'm too tired to make fun of it anymore. It just sucks period. I'm starting to wonder if it is part of some kind of malicious government psychology experiment to track how long reasonably smart people will follow something that is completely stupid before they give up. Oh, I guess the job market might be a malicious government experiment as well.

Anonymous said...

Last September I attempted to renew my APA membership. I filled out the form with the boxes you write your credit card number in and snail mailed it to them like its 1994.

About three weeks ago I got a letter from them saying that my credit card "could not be processed," and thus my membership had lapsed.

I use the stupid card every day so either I wrote the numbers in wrong or one of their idiot employees screwed it up.

Either way, it took them six months to inform me of a problem that, were it an online transaction, I would have known about and corrected instantly.

So I had to have a friend email me the new JFP, which was actually a lot easier than wasting an afternoon trying to find it on their website.

I'm not even going to bother trying to renew my membership again. If I have interviews at the Eastern next January, I'll just crash the fucker.

Anonymous said...

Same problems with getting a membership... would you please upload somewhere a pdf with the latest JFP?

Anonymous said...

I now can't even find the JFP nor the "web-only" section on the website. I am logged in but the "resources" tab is gone.

Seriously, wtf?

[de not sos mi]

Anonymous said...

They changed it. Now you have to log in, then click "Members Only", then click "Publications" on the left hand side.

Amazing bullshit on this "website". I hate the goddamn APA.

Anonymous said...

Thread derailment:

"This paper is competent, and while it wouldn't be horrible to publish in [top-20 journal], I don't recommend publishing it. The author gives reasons to prefer one version of [thesis X] over another, given the framework of [view Y], but the reasons aren't that strong or exciting. Normally I have helpful comments for the author, but not in the case, because the paper is simply competent but lackluster."

Next time, I strongly recommend the editor just give me a "reject without comments". Jesus.

Anonymous said...

My favorite journal rejections are those in which it's obvious that the reviewer never bothered to read your paper at all.

Recently I submitted a paper to the top journal in my AOS. I wasn't expecting it to be accepted, but the reviewer comments were maddening.

He complained that I never cited the most recent paper on the subject, even though I did—repeatedly.

He complained that I falsely asserted X, even though I stridently argued not-X.

He complained that I misinterpreted a quote from philosopher Y by failing to understand the context of his remark in terms of the larger argument of book Z, even though (as evident from the citation) the quote was not from Z, but from an entirely different book.

He complained that another quote inaccurately translated a particular Latin word, even though the original was in French not Latin, and the translation was not my own but the scholarly standard required by the journal itself.

It went on and on like that.

I used to bitch about the hand-waving impossible to defend against reasons typically offered for rejecting a paper. But to have a paper rejected for very specific reasons that are complete and total horseshit is vastly more annoying.

Anonymous said...

maybe i'm missing something, but is the APA site all but completely broken now? none of the nav bar links work. i can't really leave the home page. as far as i can tell, there's no way of finding the job ads.

Anonymous said...

"I wanted to let you know that our decision-making process regarding ontologist positions has temporarily slowed. Your application remains active, and we appreciate your interest in opportunities with Cycorp."

I guess this is still a possibility. This was probably sent to everyone that applied...

Anonymous said...

11:00, I think there is some browser-specific problem. With Safari it's a total mess, but with Firefox it works fine. (I mean, it works as it was designed to work.)

Anonymous said...

And what the heck is the problem with making the JFP still something you can copy and paste, something absolutely necessary to jump through the placement service hoops in my little world?

Besides, I did the search, and it just barfed up everthing listed on the most recent JFP. Not helpful.

Anonymous said...

For the life of me, I can't find the JFP, and I've used Firefox and Safari and followed the instructions people have given.

David Schrader is the executive director of the APA. Isn't it time we call for his dismissal? Not merely because of the website, of course, but for the myriad reasons of which everyone is well aware.

I don't know David Schrader - maybe he's a nice guy. But he can't do the job, and he needs to go.

Anonymous said...

11:21, huh, I have no trouble. I log in, I go to the Members Only section, I click Publications.

Also: David Schrader has already tendered his retirement, effective October 2 of this year.

Anonymous said...

I currently see no links to the JFP pdfs; they're just blue text. There are links to the web-onlys, but that's it. Is anyone else having this problem?

Anonymous said...

Instead of clicking on 'Members Only Expand Members Only' (that's literally what it says right now) in the blue toolbar at the top, you should click on 'Members Only' at the very top right hand corner of the page (above the search box). It's easier that way. Once you click on that 'Members Only' link you will have the option to choose 'Publications.' That's where the JFP is.

Anonymous said...

8:10, that's the feature (bug) that's browser-specific for me. When I use Safari I get that strange line of nonsense-looking headers (real words but don't seem to mean anything), but in Firefox it looks normal, presumably as intended.

Anonymous said...

5:07 p.m. - did you complain to the editor? A good editor would send such a case out to another referee.

8:10 said...

@9:07, Thanks. I'll use Firefox from now on.

Anonymous said...

@2:15

Yeah I complained and even hoped that my paper would be reviewed again as the editor was also the author of the paper the reviewer falsely accused my of ignoring...so I figured he might be embarrassed by the cock-up.

But alas, he responded that the my paper was rejected in the "initial review" process which was necessarily cursory and thus it was unbecoming of me to expect an exacting analysis, etc.

How that rebuts my complaints was rather unclear; but instead of continuing to press the point, I just dropped it and resolved to never submit a paper to that journal again.

Anonymous said...

re: accessing jfp: what does it mean if the link to 'publications' doesn't show up under either "members only" link?

Anonymous said...

11:22, it means you should change browsers. (See 9:07.)

Anonymous said...

11:22 here - but i am using firefox.

maybe as a member i just no longer exist. that would make a lot of sense, actually.

Anonymous said...

I think they need to hire someone to run the job website who has been through all this recently and so knows how frustrating all this is. Preferably someone who doesn't already have a full time academic appointment. It probably wouldn't be a full time job, but it might supplement crappy adjunct pay.