Thursday, December 18, 2014

The OLD permanent thread for info or questions about specific jobs (12/18/14)

A lot of people in the comments seem interested in having space to discuss or request information about specific jobs. If providing information and if possible, please provide the source of your information.

Here's a permanent thread for this. Perhaps we can use the other open threads for people to trade horror or success or weird stories, any hints that they might think are helpful, strategies for dealing with stress of the job market, etc.

In the future, after this isn't at the top of the page, you can find this thread in the sidebar. Here's a picture, with the place to find this thread in the future.



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Anonymous said...

i applied to central florida, anchorage, and el paso. no word either way.

Anonymous said...

re: Cabrini

I interviewed with the chair at the APA and she said the APA interviews were preliminary interviews and they would continue accepting and reviewing applications until the deadline (Jan 15th). After the deadline the entire search committee will meet and decide on candidates for first round phone interviews. My guess is that Cabrini is continuing to do preliminary interviews over the phone and that's why it has flipped again on the wiki. It makes sense that they would give all candidates on their long list preliminary interviews (either APA or phone) to be fair in the process.

Anonymous said...

Has anybody heard anything from Toronto?

Anonymous said...

Anyone heard from Cornell or heard anything about the Cornell postdoc?

Anonymous said...

Toronto has scheduled flyouts.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if Anchorage conducted interviews and/or campus visits before suspending the search last year? Looks like they've advertised openings for the last two years without hiring...

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard anything about the postdoc at Dartmouth?

Anonymous said...

Any news about Caldwell?

Anonymous said...

Syracuse post-doc? Anyone?

Anonymous said...

Re: Dartmouth postdoc (I assume you mean the Society of Fellows)

Back in December, they sent a mass email through Interfolio saying that they would assemble a short-list by mid-January, and then coordinate with the relevant departments. So, there could be no word on that until late January, early Feb.

Anonymous said...

@12:47, you win.

Anonymous said...

I've not heard from Syracuse (post-doc). I wonder how many applicants they've got. Dear God, at least let it be less than 100.

Anonymous said...

Still confused about Pitt's ethics search. I saw this exchange above:

"So has or has not Pittsburgh scheduled first round interviews for their ethics search?" December 22, 2014 at 12:38 PM

"@12:38 PM, yes, Pitt has scheduled first-rounds for its TT job." December 22, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Seems clear, but leaves some wiggle room, as Pitt had more than one TT job. Can anyone confirm that first-rounds (or by this point, flyouts) have been scheduled specifically for their ethics job?

Anonymous said...

"I've not heard from Syracuse (post-doc). I wonder how many applicants they've got. Dear God, at least let it be less than 100."

Hahahaha, no.

A 3-year 1/1 post-doc at Syracuse? I'm guessing at least 200 -- probably closer to 300.

Anonymous said...

5:14 i hate to break it to you, but the u washington 3 year lectureship (open area) allegedly got 300 some applicants (if memory serves, it was posted on a thread here somewhere). the syracuse post doc is also open area. I would be shocked if they'd received less than 100 applicants.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know about the status of the Michigan social/political philosophy search? it says on the wiki they scheduled first-round interviews on the 16th, but no update since then.

Anonymous said...

MIT PFO. 450 applicants.

zombie said...

I'd be shocked if Syracuse got less than 500 applications.

Anonymous said...

PFO from MIT. No surprise there.

Anonymous said...

"Dear God, at least let it be less than 100."

That's what the job market has led to: a prayer--not that the applicant get the job--but that there are fewer than 100 applicants. And judging from recent comments--even THIS prayer will go unanswered! If God is with us, who is against us? If God is not with us, then who is with us?

Anonymous said...

@6:11 AM

I know from an inside source that if you have not heard anything positive from Pitt about any of its positions by this point, you're no longer in the running for any of them.

Anonymous said...

Proposal: Any philosopher who is currently over 60 years old, and who has worked in the profession for 30 or more years, should retire at the end of this academic year.

This would provide headroom for "young" philosophers (some now into their 40s), giving them a chance to do the job for which they have been trained, and a chance to have a life. It would also fix, in part, the hypercompetitiveness of the job market moving forward, as it would clear up the huge backlog of unemployed philosophers.

In my department this would result in well over half the TT faculty being replaced by new blood. A rough estimate is that this would create 600 new TT jobs.

Anonymous said...

3:46:

I'm 61 and a tenured full Professor at a relatively minor public institution. I still love what I do, and frankly I'm still quite good at what I do, but I'm also sensitive to your concerns. But you should understand that there are many, many such as I, serving long careers in positions subject to the vicissitudes of the politics of our states, where we have labored for as much as a third of our careers with small or no raises for mostly political reasons. It's incumbent for us in these circumstances and in fairly rational self-interest to stay on until our retirement benefits are maximal or near-maximal, including SS. So I will stay on till 66 for that reason. I have colleagues in their 70s who will stay in the classroom until they are dragged out, and I get that too; the thought of never teaching again while I still have a lot to offer is almost frightening to me. But if I can maintain a good retirement by working till 66 and yet also give way to a younger philosopher, then that seems a good compromise of self-interest and social conscience.

I point this out with some trepidation here; the thread should only be about current positions.

Anonymous said...

re 3:46's proposal (and contributing to thread derailment here...): to increase TT jobs, I think it makes more sense to focus on the adjunctification of our discipline.

Derek Bowman said...

@3:46: No. See here for further discussion. http://philosopherscocoon.typepad.com/blog/2014/11/do-.html

Anonymous said...

"Proposal: Any philosopher who is currently over 60 years old, and who has worked in the profession for 30 or more years, should retire at the end of this academic year."

Do you really think that such people don't want to retire?

(Of course, this doesn't even begin to address the idiocy of asking people to retire based on age, without considering their contributions to the field.)

Anonymous said...

Proposal: Any philosopher who is currently under 35 years old, and who hasn't worked in the profession on the tenure track for 3 or more years, should retire at the end of this academic year and realize they are young enough to start a new career, perhaps one with more job opportunities.

Anonymous said...

can we please focus on "infos or questions about specific jobs" in this thread, as the title suggests? there are more than enough other threads to discuss fundamental issues about the profession/the market.

Anonymous said...

Hampshire notifications: phone calls or emails?

Anonymous said...

Gracious PFO received from San Francisco State:

"We received a large number of applications and the choice about whom to interview was very hard."

Anonymous said...

PFO from the Cornell Mellon diversity post-doc.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have an update on CSU-San Marcos, Bentley, or Oxford College at Emory?

By the way, we could use one of these for philosophy job candidates who can't even: http://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahjewell/renaissance-babies-who-cant-even

Anonymous said...

From the looks of their upcoming events, Minnesota State Mankato already has job candidates scheduled for talks.

Anonymous said...

PFO from John Carroll.

Anonymous said...

PFO from the Dartmouth Society of Fellows.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps we should have a new thread on the proposal.

I would be unaffected by this proposal. But some of my colleagues would be ousted. One has been teaching for nearly 40 years, and is a masterful teacher. And after 4 decades, he should be. As a past department chair, a past general education committee chair, and former chair of the provost's advisory committee, he also knows every inch of the university's administration, and is very helpful in navigating it. Forcing him to retire would not only be a terrible injustice to him, but would also make the students' and his colleagues' experience that much poorer. Everyone in the department dreads the day he retires. Nobody we hire will be as good as he is in the classroom. Maybe someday, but not anytime soon. I would sooner have him as a colleague than any bright young recruit, no matter how much promise he may show.

When I finished grad school, I was focused on getting a job. But now that I have one, I realize that almost nothing about my job is about me. My courses exist for the students, as does much of my service on campus. And in my department, this is how we look at applicants: we don't care so much about rankings and tiers and that nonsense; we ask how we feel each applicant can serve the students. Yes, you need to publish, but part of that is so that you can be part of the field you are teaching your students, so you can help them see what's happening now, where the field is going. We want good teachers. And one problem I have with this proposal is that it ignores just how damn good some of those people are (for students, for colleagues, for universities).

And no, it really wouldn't fix the backlog. And that's because it would do nothing about the continuing over-production of PhDs. There would be one great wave of replacements, and then smaller waves as people hit your arbitrary cut-off point. It would clear up the backlog that exists now, but don't fool yourself into thinking that once the first purge happens, there would be such a purge every year. The backlog would return. Your solution is shortsighted. And does not address, as has been pointed out, the adjunctification of the profession, or other areas that have caused the systemic problems. I can assure you that the other philosophers being employed for the full length of their professional careers is not the reason why others don't have jobs. My colleague's existence, in other words, is not to blame for anyone's unemployment.

"New blood" has its value, but think of all the experience, all the professional and institutional memory, this solution casts off. New blood should come in waves, one or two hires at a time, who then benefit from the mentoring of senior colleagues. I pity the department (such as yours) that would find itself replacing more than half of its faculty in one year. Will one of those new hires serve immediately as department chair? Will the tenure and promotion committee be constituted from them? Will all of the service work and advising be the burden of the few experienced faculty who remain, while the "new blood" learns how to do the job? Yes, that group may all be brilliant young philosophers, but none of them know the first thing about working in that department, and they just effectively fired the group that knows the most, the group that would give them the best guidance.

Stop and consider what you are really suggesting: that after a certain age, one no longer has the right to a professional career, the career that one has engaged for his entire life.

If such a career is so very important to you, please don't assume it is any less so to those who have been so engaged for the entirely of their professional lives. And please don't assume that your youth and vigor are adequate replacements for the experience one acquires over a lifetime of professional work.

Anonymous said...

central florida is now advertising for two lectureship positions that sound very similar to the TT job they earlier advertised on philjobs: https://chroniclevitae.com/jobs/0000866138-01(both are structure around their humanities & cultural studies and religion & cultural studies programs and on a cog sci competency).

anyone know whether the TT job in mind previous advertised has been replaced with these two lectureship positions? i surely hope not, but it doesn't seem impossible.

Anonymous said...

A charitable (and significantly weaker) reading of the original "proposal" might be that older members of the profession, whose contributions to the profession (both in the classroom and in terms of publishing) are significantly decreasing, should see their decision to delay retirement as a *morally significant* decision.

I do not think that all decisions about continued employment have a moral dimension. But some do, and some of those may plausibly have to do with age and the realities of the market.

I know plenty of members of the profession who are well into their 80s whose classroom performance is seriously questionable, and who haven't published anything in a quarter of a century. Let me add that they're not sticking around for the money; many of these professors will receive generous pensions and are financially comfortable.

I think their decision to continue on, year after year, given their decreased performance and the realities of the job market, is plausibly *immoral*. (Absent the realities of the job market, the decision to delay retirement might merely be *selfish*, but not immoral.)

Anonymous said...

Proposal: everyone who has lived in the First World for at least 35 years should move to a Third World country and give their worldly possessions to someone in the Third World.

A decision to refuse to do so, and instead maintain your own privilege, is plausibly *immoral*.

Anonymous said...

PLEASE! It is a thread "for info or questions about specific jobs", an informational forum for those who are desperately waiting to hear back from schools.

Anonymous said...

Back on topic:

I am waiting to hear back from a place that I did a first round interview with. It is now several weeks after they said they would contact people for on campus. The wiki has not changed, and I am wondering if there are thoughts on the likelihood that a department could bring in 2-3 candidates and no one change the wiki?

Anonymous said...

New jobs thread please. Anything with over 200 comments needs a new thread.

Anonymous said...

9:56:
can certainly happen. Departments themselves rarely change the wiki, and often never contact candidates they don't invite. With candidates, the likelihood that they do is simply incalculable. I never change the wiki when I hear anything.

also,I second the request for a new thread, this is too cumbersome.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:56am: "I am wondering if there are thoughts on the likelihood that a department could bring in 2-3 candidates and no one change the wiki?"

IME, High.

Anonymous said...

9:56 here:

Yeah, that was my thought, too. I think I will give it another week, and then contact someone at the department to see if they have scheduled campus visits.

Also, 11:08, why wouldn't you ever change the wiki? It seems like a common courtesy thing to do. Is there something I am missing?

Anonymous said...

No free rides, 11:08.

Anonymous said...

I tried to add something once, and after five minutes of endless log-in failures I gave up. haven't tried again since.

Anonymous said...

12:46 -- if you mean San Diego State, they are scheduling campus visits.

Anonymous said...

3:29:

"if you mean San Diego State, they are scheduling campus visits."

Wait, so they have already scheduled campus visits? Or do you mean they still need to schedule them?

Anonymous said...

how about a thread for folks to post about specific jobs that have conducted first-round interviews in december, yet still haven't contacted them (either way) about the on campus invites? it would be good to know that one isn't the only one in the dark, having heard nothing...

Anonymous said...

Best PFO...EVER:

"On behalf of the University of Nottingham we thank you for your interest. Our website does offer some tips for making an effective application, which you may, or may not, find useful..."

Anonymous said...

I mean San Diego contacted me today to schedule a campus visit. But the date has not been finalized.

Anonymous said...

Congrats on your SDSU interview. You should update the wiki.

Anonymous said...

re 1:48 and log-in failures on the wiki: just fyi, you actually don't have to log in to use the wiki. You can just click on the name of the school and change the status (You are not alone in having been confused about this, it's not set up in the most intuitive way).

Anonymous said...

If you heard from SDSU, did you get a phone call or an email? Just wondering if all hope is lost...

Anonymous said...

Would it be safe to conclude that if either one interviewed at the APA or did a skype interview around that time or before, and still have not heard anything from the school that one was not in the first group selected for the on campus visit?

Anonymous said...

12:16:
re: SDSU -- both phone message and email. But I have no inside knowledge about whether they've contacted all finalists, so for all I know, there is still hope for you.

Anonymous said...

Any word from UTEP, CSU San Marcos, or Indiana U of PA? It's been a while.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know how Utah Valley is proceeding with their search? I know 1st round interviews took place, but does anyone know if they will be scheduling or have scheduled fly outs?

Anonymous said...

I've asked before, but -- Chapel Hill?

Anonymous said...

Interview request today for the U Washington lecturer position. Via phone.

zombie said...

1:09 - it's pretty hard to predict. The scheduling is all over the place this year, with some places still doing first-rounds. Feb is (typically) the month for fly-outs.
The semester is just starting or about to start in most places, so SCs might be just meeting, or about to meet, and so decisions about finalists may not have been made yet.

Anonymous said...

@1:09 - Hope is not lost. This coming week should be busy for fly-out notifications.

@3:35 - Take a look at Indiana (PA)'s department site. Looks like an inside hire, just like Tampa.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard from UC Davis about campus visits? It's been a while since the first round interviews...

Anonymous said...

1:09,

It would not be safe to assume anything, until you hear something definite. I know that this is standard advice, but I think that the market is changing in ways that make scheduling more unpredictable.

Some schools have held Skype interviews for an opening they hope they get to keep funding for. In those cases, they need to wait for HR's approval before moving on to the next round.

Some schools have a lock on the hiring line, but maybe do not start back until the end of the month, so it could be 2 weeks (from right now) before they contact anyone.

Some schools are racing through the process, hoping to hire someone ASAP (both to keep the line, and to get their top choice). However, those schools also know that if they don't get anyone on their shortlist (or if all those applicants are deemed unsuitable), they have time enough to go back into the (very deep) pool for another round. (My college did this a few years ago.)

Because more and more schools are abandoning the conference and the time that was built around it, there's going to be more flexibility than ever before. Honestly, I would not be surprised to hear of school still flying people out as late as May, and not making decisions until nearly the end of the semester.

On the one hand, this means there may be more hope for people. On the other hand, it certainly draws out the period of great anxiety.

Anonymous said...

Jaded: I saw your tweet about interviews. Sorry. I hope something that you like comes up.

Anonymous said...

Has anybody heard from U. Alabama (Tuscaloosa)?

Anonymous said...

Tuscaloosa has scheduled fly-outs for the mind job.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard from John Carroll following the APA interview?

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard from Indiana or Rice?

Anonymous said...

Miami? Anyone?

Anonymous said...

Rice has scheduled flyouts.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard anything about the Memorial position?

Anonymous said...

I, too, am waiting to hear from Memorial.

Allegheny fly-outs anyone?

Anonymous said...

PFO from Wash STL postdoc and Benedictine College.

Anonymous said...

U Wisconsin-Eau Claire? Anything?

It's my last hope. I'd just like to know that the search is dead or has moved into the first round so that I can get on with my life.

Anonymous said...

I guess word is out that there are no more jobs in philosophy - so why not try an alternative profession?

You can find one here:

http://www.jobsinphilosophy.org/lists/Europe

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard about timing for first-round interviews for Emory's Oxford College, Northeastern, or CSU San Marcos?

Anonymous said...

Haven't heard anything from CSU San Marcos either.

UTEP, anyone?

zombie said...

San Marcos' email (12/17) said they would start reviewing applications Nov 21, and hoped to conduct interviews in January. My interpretation of that is that since I haven't heard from them since then, I'm done.

Anonymous said...

Could we have a new open job market info threat? this one is hard to keep track of.

Anonymous said...

Busy day on the wiki today: lots of positions flipping to 'on-campus' status. Must be the ides of January.

Anonymous said...

UC Davis mind job? Have they scheduled campus visits?

Derek Bowman said...

@1:22

Those just look like the same kinds of academic appointments we're already applying to.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone confirm that Lawrence has scheduled fly outs?

Anonymous said...

Anyone have any idea what's going on with the Central Florida cogsci position? That's pretty much my only remaining option and I'd like to just be able to get on with my life at this point.

Anonymous said...

I too am wondering about the Central Florida Cog. Sci. position. Has anybody e-mailed them about this? I think it would be fair to do this now, if only to determine whether the line is still open.

Anonymous said...

I can confirm that Lawrence has scheduled fly outs.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard anything from Central College (Iowa)? Their app was due more than a month ago.

Anonymous said...

Minnesota State, Mankato, confirms that while it wasn't made explicit in the job description, they will not look at ABD. Must have PhD by time of application. Applications considered on an ongoing basis until position is filled.

Anonymous said...

PFO from Cabrina on Jan 12, which means that the 10:33 post, Jan 5, that the SC would not begin reviewing applicants until after the Jan 15 deadline was not wholly accurate.

Anonymous said...

Miami is having potential candidates do job talks this and next month (i am a student in the program). Our first woman (of course) is this week.

Anonymous said...

I emailed Central a week ago and never heard back (wanted to update my CV). As a note, I was a finalist at a similar school last year and it took them over 2 months to get back for the initial interview. And then once I had the interview, it took ages for the on-campus. And then after the on-campus... you get idea.

Anonymous said...

@6:34: "Our first woman (of course) is this week."

Did you really just say that?

Anonymous said...

"Has anyone heard anything from Central College (Iowa)? Their app was due more than a month ago."

Just like with Tampa and Indiana (PA), I suspect it's an inside hire.

Anonymous said...

"PFO from Cabrina on Jan 12, which means that the 10:33 post, Jan 5, that the SC would not begin reviewing applicants until after the Jan 15 deadline was not wholly accurate."

Did you have a 'preliminary' interview?

Anonymous said...

@ 6:34 "Our first woman (of course) is this week."

Well, if this is representative of the atmosphere of the department, maybe not getting a fly-out to Miami is not such a bad thing!

Anonymous said...

Perhaps 6:34 would like to clarify what the 'of course' was intended to convey?

Anonymous said...

Thanks 6:11,

I was just about to start the Mankato application but I am not defending until this spring. I guess, upon second look, it does directly say one of the minimum requirements is degree at time of application. Well, too bad for them, I guess.

Anonymous said...

PFO from Macalester.

Anonymous said...

PFO from Macalester today. Like I didn't already know.
272 applications.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know what's up with the Cornell early modern post-doc? Tx.

Anonymous said...

Very cordial PFO from UC San Diego for the ethics/political search.

Anonymous said...

Our first woman (of course) is this week.

Yeesh. The spirit of McGinn lives on.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard from--or know someone who has heard from--the American University of Beirut?

zombie said...
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zombie said...

I hope the woman (of course) enjoys her (free) trip to Florida (of course) and has many (other) offers.

Anonymous said...

So I see that Cabrini flipped again, and has first round interviews scheduled. But I also see here that some people have gotten PFOs on Jan. 12th. I did not get a PFO from them, but also haven't heard anything about a first round. Has there really been a first round interview scheduled?

Anonymous said...

"I did not get a PFO from them, but also haven't heard anything about a first round. Has there really been a first round interview scheduled?"

Same here. Given the initial confusion about the status of the 'preliminary' interviews, I am skeptical each time I see Cabrini flip on the wiki.

However, having had a preliminary interview, I am not confident that the SC chair recalls much from any of those interviews (she conducted, by my count, at least 20 across three days at the APA and had no applicant files with her and wrote very little down). I think Cabrini more or less invited candidates to the APA just to have a conversation about the department and provide information about the job. I do not think they functioned as a basis for determining who moves to the next step in the process. That's a shame, given the cost that some candidates took on just to have that conversation.

Anonymous said...

For the love of god, can we get a new jobs thread?

Anonymous said...

"Our first woman (of course) is this week."

First of how many women?

Anonymous said...

New job thread please!

Anonymous said...

What part of "permanent jobs thread" don't you understand? It's permanent in the sense that this is the place to talk about specific jobs, from here on out. It is not "permanent" merely in the sense that it won't be deleted after 30 days. None of the threads get deleted.

Anonymous said...

UC Davis scheduled fly outs.

Anonymous said...

Anyone have information about the two Oxford posts in ancient philosophy?

Anonymous said...

I also have not received a PFO from Cabrini or an invitation for a first round interview. I did have a preliminary interview with them at the APA.

Anonymous said...

Public Service Anouncement:
PFO Notre Dame. They've scheduled their on-campus, JSYK. Blah.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if Elon is doing on campus interviews for the post doc?

Anonymous said...

Two new jobs at Troy University that aren't posted at PhilJobs:
http://academicjobs.wikia.com/wiki/Philosophy_2015-16

Anonymous said...

Re: Troy, I wonder what an upper division course in critical thinking is ...

Anonymous said...

PFO from Victoria (mind position). 300 applicants.

Anonymous said...

Cornell post doc? This is my last one. I just want to be out of my misery.

Anonymous said...

Did Metro State ever do interviews?

Anonymous said...

Jesus. Neither PhilJobs nor HiEdJobs have moved an inch in over a week. Where the fuck are the job ads?

Anonymous said...

@10:56, re: Where the fuck are the job ads?

My guess? They're (mostly) done for the year.

Anonymous said...

Metro State has not yet contacted first rounds.

Anonymous said...

10:56 - my guess is more visiting positions will appear later in the spring, as people currently in those positions accept other TT jobs.

as for post-docs, I'm hoping more will post... (and please some that *aren't* in ethics. Throw us M & E folk a bone!)

Anonymous said...

Anyone else hear from Victoria one way or another. I see a PFO above. I counted myself out long ago but haven't recieved a PFO. I have no interviewed with them... Maybe that's what the above PFO is about?

Anonymous said...

Same situation about Victoria. Has anybody heard anything from GA Tech (Public policy) or UT El Paso (philsci)?

Anonymous said...

Anyone else get a very strange email from Oklahoma State this afternoon? It seemed to be a PFO, announcing they completed first rounds and made campus invites, but then it also seem to be an inadvertently sent email. Very odd.

Anonymous said...

It looks like Victoria staggered the PFOs. I just got mine via email today.

Anonymous said...

I got the same email from Oklahoma State. I'm bummed, since I thought I nailed the interview and I really liked the department. Now I'm out.

Anonymous said...

3:47,

One thing to remember is that you very well may have nailed the interview. It's quite competitive out there, and the finalists may have brought something to the table you did not.

Anonymous said...

PFO University of Tasmania, Phil of Gender Studies

Anonymous said...

If one interviewed at the APA and still has not heard anything from the school (or seen any updates on the wiki), would it be inappropriate to contact the search committee chair to see where things currently stand?

Anonymous said...

Did anyone apply to the Central European University Institute for Advanced Studies fellowships? They're not specific to philosophy, open to all humanities. If so, any word either way? And was it email or snail mail?

Anonymous said...

Someone I know has been contacted about an on-site interview with the National Institutes of Health.

Anonymous said...

1:09 inappropriate? I don't think so. But I also don't see what could be gained by it. And you might slightly annoy them.

Unless you have other offers/funding you need to commit to soon-ish. Then yes, you should dfn contact them and then diplomatically explain the timing issue and ask where things stand.

at least that's what i'd think (im a grad student not a SC member).

Anonymous said...

anyone who knows about the status of the social/political position at Michigan?

Anonymous said...

"If one interviewed at the APA and still has not heard anything from the school (or seen any updates on the wiki), would it be inappropriate to contact the search committee chair to see where things currently stand?"

Inappropriate, no. Risky and ill-advised, yes. Hasn't even been month yet.

Anonymous said...

@1:27PM:

I received a rejection by e-mail from CEU-IAS on Thursday.

zombie said...

I'm inclined to agree with 11:30 about contacting the SC. Unless you have a compelling need to know where you stand (like another offer), don't contact them. Some years ago, I had an offer and did contact a department I'd had a first-round with. They were utterly weird and noncommittal in their reply in a way that indicated I should forget about them.

Anonymous said...

1:09,

Yes, it is inappropriate. They have not forgotten that they are running a search. And while it's awful to sit and wait, you need to realize that they are also in the midst of their spring semester and have other work to attend to as well.

Plus, there's the chance that they have identified their short-list, and you are not on it. Contacting them won't put you any higher on the list.

It sucks, but this is part of the process. Be patient.

Anonymous said...

Any rumors, hearsay, or legitimate info about whether Villanova has scheduled second round interviews for the Kant job?

zombie said...

Not all SCs will send out PFOs, or updates about their search. Some places do not send any notices until the search is concluded. Some never send PFOs at all. By late winter, you can be pretty sure that you're out. By late spring, you're definitely out.
I've gotten maybe three PFOs this year, even thought I'm pretty sure I'm out of the running for a lot more than three jobs at this point. Pitt sent out that odd (possibly misleading) update. San Marcos sent an update.
One thing I really dislike about the "new" post-APA search schedule is that the whole process is dragged out. There are still first-rounds happening, still places that haven't settled on their fly-out candidates. I've got some applications out that haven't even hit their deadlines yet. It was comparatively nice, in the old days, to know that after the New Year, you were done with TT jobs and could move on.

Anonymous said...

@ 7:41 am -- a friend of mine got invited for an on-campus for the Kant job at Villanova (sorry to bear bad news!)

Anonymous said...

@Zombie

I did not get an update from San Marcos. What did it say? I assumed that since I haven't heard anything, I'm out.

Anonymous said...

First round interview requests are still coming in.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone have any news about the LSE job?

Anonymous said...

@9:24 am - Thank you!

zombie said...

9:28, re: San Marcos

"December 17, 2014

Dear Applicant,

Thank you for your application to the Philosophy faculty position at California State University, San Marcos. We began reviewing applications on November 21. The Search Committee will select a group of candidates for interviews, which we hope to conduct in January."

January's about over, so if, like me, you haven't had an interview by now, you're probably out of the running.

Anonymous said...

mailed (!) pfo from university of mary: "Thank you for your interest in the position that was available in the philosophy department with the University of Mary. We have completed our screening process and the position has been filled with the candidate whose strengths best suit the precise needs of our program. This choice should not necessarily be construed as reflecting negatively on your own particular qualifications or accomplishments." --- I love the "necessarily" ... ha.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard from U Minnesota, Duluth about campus visits?

Anonymous said...



Dartmouth Post-Doc?
LSE?
Cal State San Marcos?
St. Andrews?
Indiana Penn?
Central College?
Eindhoven?

Anonymous said...

"Indiana Penn"

Pretty sure that's an inside hire. We may never hear.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have any information at all about the Memorial feminist philosophy job? It's been about 7 weeks since the deadline!

Anonymous said...

"Pretty sure that's an inside hire. We may never hear."

It's showing up on the wiki

http://phylo.info/node/86253

Anonymous said...

No news about Memorial here, either. Please post if you hear anything....

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard from the SUNY Purchase VAP in philosophy in cinema studies?

Anonymous said...

I received a PFO for the dartmouth post-doc January 8th (I'm assuming you mean the Society of Fellows). They've also already shortlisted candidates.

btw, that post-doc was not specific to philosophy -- anyone in humanities or social sciences could apply. they supposedly got 1700 applicants.

Anonymous said...

Indiana University of Pennsylvania is conducting first round interviews this week, so I don't suspect it's an inside hire.

Anonymous said...

Anyone hear anything from Macau or Nanyang?

Anonymous said...

"Indiana University of Pennsylvania is conducting first round interviews this week, so I don't suspect it's an inside hire."

Tampa also did first round interviews, and that looks like an inside hire.

Anonymous said...

Re Macau

I've heard that all searches throughout the university at Macau are on hold. Apparently the crackdown on corruption in China has led to a decrease in gambling revenues in Macau, so the university is having budget difficulties.

zombie said...

"Indiana University of Pennsylvania is conducting first round interviews this week, so I don't suspect it's an inside hire."

I have no opinion as to whether that search has an inside candidate or not, but when searches have an inside candidate, they still go through the entire search process, including first-rounds and fly-outs. And inside candidates still have to jump through the usual hoops.

Anonymous said...

anyone have any info on the Stanford Mellon or on the the Institute of Advanced Studies at Toulouse Fellowships? (not sure if they were advertised on phil jobs, they're general humanities post-docs).

Anonymous said...

"Indiana Penn"

Pretty sure that's an inside hire. We may never hear.


Good lord I'm so sick of the "inside hire" trope. Its appearance says so much more about job candidate fears than it does about any actual facts concerning the market. Hell, I've had tenured faculty members at an institution tell me their search was an inside hire and turn out to be wrong.

Anonymous said...

Could someone knowledgeable address, perhaps here or in a new thread, what the game plan should be here on out for those of us who did not land a TT job?

I'm a research type and get little placement help. What should I be looking to do over the next couple of months in order to secure a TT job next year or the one following?

Postdocs are an obvious choice, but what about VAPs? How do people feel about those? Would it be much better to do a VAP at a pedigreed institution, or just a place that will leave time for research? Etc.

In general I think it might be helpful to have some thoughts about these matters put down, since it appears that many, many of us are in this boat.

The answer may simply be that there are no answers, since the process is not a rational one.

Anonymous said...

Nanyang has issued invitations for, and is now conducting, Skype interviews.

Any word about Saint Peter's?

Anonymous said...

I received the email from La Trobe today:

"Our short listing process is currently underway and your application is being reviewed. We apologise for the delay in updating you as to the progress of your application and expect to be in contact with you shortly."

Anonymous said...

"Could someone knowledgeable address, perhaps here or in a new thread, what the game plan should be here on out for those of us who did not land a TT job?"

Publish in top journals.

"I'm a research type and get little placement help. What should I be looking to do over the next couple of months in order to secure a TT job next year or the one following?"

Publish in top journals.

"Postdocs are an obvious choice, but what about VAPs? How do people feel about those? Would it be much better to do a VAP at a pedigreed institution, or just a place that will leave time for research? Etc."

Take any job that allows you time to publish in top journal. (But also, have you not been applying for post-docs and VAPs? Why on earth would you not be doing that already?)

"In general I think it might be helpful to have some thoughts about these matters put down, since it appears that many, many of us are in this boat."

Publish in top journals.

"The answer may simply be that there are no answers, since the process is not a rational one."

Publish in top journals.

No, it's not a guarantee. But people who publish in top journals get more looks from more schools, and that increases your chances. Once you have been selected for an interview, it's all a crap-shoot from there. Though there are things you can do about the interview:

Realize that it's no longer about smarts. Everyone at this stage is smart. Be confident but not arrogant. Charming but not sleazy. Listen, instead of just waiting for your turn to speak. Don't dismiss anyone just because they are not on the search committee (including students, non-TT faculty, support staff, etc.). Be curious about the people and the department, instead of always trying to sell yourself.

Anonymous said...

I've been in a VAP at a non-pedigreed teaching institution and went from having a couple of interviews to a ton this year. VAPs often appear on philjobs in the spring and are great opportunities.

Anonymous said...

"Publish in top journals" (Anonymous 5:51am) sounds like good advice, but it is actually terribly out of touch with reality. Only R1 schools care about publications in top journals. In fact, teaching schools (of which there are many) may actually be scared away by it, as you'll look like a gung-ho researcher who is a flight risk. And I say this as someone with experience in these matters.

Anonymous said...

PFO from W&M (for a job I applied to last April).

Anonymous said...

@5:51.
Lots of sympathy, but I think publishing in top journals can be a bit oversold. When I very first went on the market I had 1 publication in a good but not top journal and 1 invited piece in a fine venue. This year I had a good number more - one in an OUP book and one in Nous and all of them in reputable places. I did worse in terms of number of interviews and I did worse in terms of job quality. For comparison, a classmate of mine did much better with 1 publication. We work in the same area. This person's letters are excellent and I believe that made a very big difference. Publications matter a lot, but they aren't the only way and aren't sufficient. I think another thing you might say in reply to many of the questions you answer: get your letters upgraded. How do you do this? By writing really excellent papers that your letter writers can read. These may well lead to publication too, but they can help even if they aren't in print. Letters matter a lot. Maybe the more general suggestion: write really good papers that impress the heck out of people (be they referees at top journals or letter writers... hopefully both).

Anonymous said...

Any word on that temporary teaching associate position the Cambridge recently advertised? It said somewhere on their website that they wanted to do interviews in the first week of February, so one would expect they'd have made a few choices by this point...

Anonymous said...

"Maybe the more general suggestion: write really good papers that impress the heck out of people (be they referees at top journals or letter writers... hopefully both)."

Translation: be a good philosopher.

Thanks, that's helpful.

Anonymous said...

as usual, I find the reference to "top journals" a bit vague.

If it means: peer-reviewed journals that are reasonably selective and that have an established brand name, then the advice that one needs to have published in such journals to be competitive for research jobs sounds good, other things equal.

If by "top journals" one means only Nous, Phil review, Jphil and Mind, then this is not good advice.

Anonymous said...

To 12:58, it is helpful, because here are some other things you might do. 1. teach more classes and focus on getting good evals, 2. stack up lots of professional service. I'm sure there are more. I find 'focus on your writing and get the best work in the hands of letter writers' to be pretty informative. Keep trolling though... it's good for the soul.

Anonymous said...

Re Cambridge. I can't speak to the replacement for Tim Button's position. I do have evidence that interviews for the Templeton thing have been scheduled.

Anonymous said...

FWIW, I have no publications in 'top journals'. In fact, I have no journal publications. I have several conference presentations, and a few invited essays.

So far, I have interviewed with two departments with graduate philosophy programs (and which are part of R1 schools), one of which is Leiter-ranked. I have had a handful of interviews at teaching-oriented schools.

I do not come from a Leiter Top 10 program. I am ABD. I come from a very shitty undergraduate institution.

I have a lot of teaching experience, solid teaching evaluations, and good letters. Both R1 SCs asked a lot about my teaching and how I manage to balance research and teaching. Both were interested in planned research, but it was clear from the interviews that it was my teaching background that caught their attention. So far, one of these interviews has led to a fly-out.

So, at least in my experience, no 'top journal' publications were necessary to get a couple of R1 interviews. But I am quite sure that had I not seized several opportunities to teach, or had I not devoted a lot of time to teaching as well as I possibly could, I would have been overlooked.

Anonymous said...

so UTEP, Anchorage, and Central Florida TT jobs... are they all dead in the water? Canceled? Progressing without a wiki-update? If anyone has any info at all, please share. thanks!

Anonymous said...

@4:17 Alright, cool. I was indeed thinking of the Tim Button gig, I'd forgotten about the Templeton thing altogether.

zombie said...

Another reminder -- this thread is for asking about and responding to questions about specific jobs. As it says in the name of the post. This is a very long thread, but that is to be assumed given its "permanent" status. Don't make it longer by going off topic.

I have created another post addressing the question about "what to do next." Please take your answers and advice over there.

Anonymous said...

Any news about the postdocs for Brown (political theory), Chicago (society of fellows), or UNC (diversity)?

Anonymous said...

Anyone know anything about Umass Amherst? There is nothing on their website indicating that any talks have been scheduled. Anyone?

Anonymous said...

What about Georgetown's Kennedy Institute of Ethics job?

Any information?

Anonymous said...

"What about Georgetown's Kennedy Institute of Ethics job?"

They've moved to fly-outs.

Anonymous said...

Anyone heard about the Staten Island position?

Anonymous said...

Anybody know what's up with Puget Sound? They showed up on the wiki as having scheduled flyouts several weeks ago, and then two days ago someone updated it again with the same information.

Are they rolling out flyout invitations one person at a time?

Anonymous said...

Anyone know whats going on with the Elon post-doc? Have they moved forward since the first round interviews? It's been almost a month.

Anonymous said...

7:37,

Haven't heard anything substantial about the postdoc at Elon, though when I asked about their timeline, they were a bit vague. They did, after all, just finish an intensive winter session. Perhaps we'll hear in the coming week.

Anonymous said...

Cornell early modern? Cornell? Anybody? Cornell?

Anonymous said...

I'm also eager to learn something about the Cornell early-modern postdoc.

Anonymous said...

And still nothing, I'd assume, about the Tim Button replacement gig at Cambridge that's supposed to do interviews Friday. I suppose that at least let's us know they're either doing skype interviews or postponing, which is something.

Anonymous said...

Anybody who interviewed with Saint Leo at the APA heard anything since?

Anonymous said...

Rutgers Term Chair in Bioethics?

Anonymous said...

does anyone know about a timeline for the rotman institute post-docs (at Western) or the Columbia neuroscience post-doc?

Anonymous said...

9:47, I Applied for those too and don't know. Good luck though.

Anonymous said...

In addition to the previous TT job (AOC: critical thinking) at Troy, Troy is now offering a second position, tenure-stream, open-rank, AOC of ethics: https://www.troyuniversityjobs.com/postings/8399

Neither position is on phil jobs, perhaps because most of the History/Philosophy faculty (it's a joint department) is in history. They may not know about phil jobs.

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