Monday, September 19, 2011

New "Supplement" to the JFP

David Morrow, who is awesome, writes:

Chris Sula and I have revamped the Phylo site to create an actual jobs board to (ahem) supplement the JFP. The URL is the same as the old wiki: As of today, we'll start accepting job postings in that space from departmental representatives only. Following Harry Brighouse's advice, we'll also require a link to an external site (e.g., an announcement on the department's web site) to verify each post's authenticity. We're moving the job wiki to People will still be able to post unofficial updates there. We're still in the process of updating the wiki software to play nicely with the jobs board, but it will be up well before anyone needs to post status updates. In the meantime, watch the main jobs board to find out about job openings..

This is super awesome. I'm sure I don't speak only for myself when I say how grateful I am to David and Chris for doing this. Thank you both.

It also seems to me that in order for this to work, it has to be well-publicized. So job-seekers everywhere would appreciate it if Smokers with blogs of their own, or who post to the various philosophy listserves, etc, would help spread the word.

--Mr. Zero


Anonymous said...

Um, what happened to the jobs that were already posted? A week ago there were at least 15.

zombie said...

The JFP still exists, so far as anyone can tell, because there is a requirement that jobs be published in print, and not just online. If I understand it correctly, this is a requirement that comes out of visa requirements for immigrants coming to the US for work.

Since JFP is apparently and for the immediate future inaccessible to ordinary mortals, it is worth noting that it's not the only game in town. There are other places to find philosophy job listings, in addition to the nascent Phylo listings (kudos for that, dudes!):

I used HigherEdJobs extensively last year. They often posted jobs faster/earlier than JFP, and pretty much posted all the jobs on JFP. There are a lot of recent ads up there already:

This is OK, but not comprehensive. They seem to list quirky jobs:

The Chronicle has listings, although I find their search to be cumbersome:

If you're a bioethicist, there's:

Anonymous said...

I just wish more departments knew about the existence of

It is a great site, and as far as I can see, free for departments to post. It is also not peppered with spam, so it could become quite a valuable resource.

david morrow said...

@Anon 8:04,

The jobs that were previously posted at had been posted by anonymous wiki users. Since we want the new version to be exclusively for "official" announcements, we've hidden the others.

We hope to have a new wiki running shortly, but we need to get it to play nicely with the new jobs board so that it can import those jobs directly.


We've been trying to figure out exactly what the requirement is for publishing ads. We take it that Phylo Jobs doesn't currently satisfy the requirement, but we'd like to figure out how hard it would be for us to do so. In the meantime, I assume the Chronicle would satisfy the requirement, although it's more expensive than JFP.

If anyone knows where we can get detailed information on the relevant publishing requirement, please let us know!

Anonymous said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!

The phylo jobs board looks amazing -- everything we could have hoped for.

Anonymous said...

Dear Zombie, the paper requirement does not hold for college faculty searches. Here are the Dept. of Labor guidelines:

Is the employer permitted to use an electronic or web-based national professional journal instead of a print journal when conducting recruitment under 20 CFR 656.18, Optional special recruitment and documentation procedures for college and university teachers?

Yes, an employer may use an electronic or web-based national professional journal to satisfy the provision found at 20 CFR 656.18(b)(3), which requires use of a national professional journal for advertisements for college or university teachers. The electronic or web-based journal's job listings must be viewable to the public without payment of subscription and/or membership charges. The advertisement for the job opportunity for which certification is sought must be posted for at least 30 calendar days on the journal's website. Documentation of the placement of an advertisement in an electronic or web-based national professional journal must include evidence of the start and end dates of the advertisement placement and the text of the advertisement.

Anonymous said...

Branding suggestion: the new site should be called Philosophy Job Opening Board Service (Philosophy JOBS).

Ben said...

Even if there is a print requirement, it would be worth investigating whether that has specific requirements, e.g. about circulation. Otherwise maybe a hard copy on the department's noticeboard will suffice, with wider advertising online of course.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for doing this. It's about time someone honestly undermined the APA and the JFP.

Rebecca said...

Following up on Anon 8:07: "The electronic or web-based journal's job listings must be viewable to the public without payment of subscription and/or membership charges. "

Wait, wtf, then why does JFP even satisfy the requirement, given that it is only accessible to paying members???

Can we please just collectively kill it, this year, for realsies? It is a total embarrassment to the profession.

zombie said...

Anon 8:07 -- that's helpful, thanks. I wonder what constitutes a "professional journal" under the requirement?

Anonymous said...

I stumbled upon this sentence deep within the maze of the APA website: "In an effort to reduce the carbon footprint of The American Philosophical Association, the National Office is pleased to announce that the JFP, available to all current APA members, will be published exclusively online beginning in the fall of 2012. " It appears at the bottom the main "publications" page after logging in...